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Now that we've had a few days to digest the Apple CEO succession news, Nilay and David get some help from Daring Fireball's John Gruber to discuss Tim Cook's legacy, the potential for change under John Ternus, and whether the Touch Bar actually could have been great. Then, Nilay and David react to some breaking news: Microsoft is going back to the Xbox. And everything is an Xbox now. Finally, in the lightning round, we have a round of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, a very 2026 new microphone, a BMW we can't figure out, and Meta's new AI training tool: its employees.
Watch our emergency live episode here:
0:00 Tim Cook Steps Down
00:54 Why The Timing Shocked
03:24 Health Rumors And Chair Role
06:34 Politics Supply Chain Reality
11:07 Cook Legacy Product Debate
15:16 Is There Life After iPhone
19:30 Car Health Vision Pro Bets
22:49 Siri And The AI Miss
28:23 Cook Era Product Roll Call
30:28 Touch Bar Postmortem
33:37 Touch Bar Fallout
34:46 Butterfly Keyboard Fiasco
35:20 Cook vs Jobs Urgency
37:38 iPad Future Misread
38:48 John Tern Rises
41:51 Hardware vs Software Design
45:38 Upcoming Apple Forks
48:53 Microsoft Gaming Rebrand
50:27 Xbox Strategy Reality Check
56:50 Daily Active Players Metric
01:00:48 Game Pass Price Shift
01:03:13 Lightning Round Returns
01:04:55 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:06:55 FCC Targets LGBTQ Content
01:07:42 Streaming Regulation Creep
01:10:14 Mythos Model Controversy
01:13:20 Cybersecurity Reality Check
01:18:38 BMW Screen Overload
01:23:57 Creator Mi
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